Nancy News – lbt

Time: 5pm, Place: LBT Shed. 

1. Seniors Week.  
Monday, October 11
     brian pain: skipper
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SHORE SUPPORT.
Tuesday, October 12
     Tuesday Group: shore support
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SKIPPER.  
Wednesday, October 13
     brian pain: skipper
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SHORE SUPPORT. 
Thursday, October 14
     steve wilson: deck hand
     REQUIRE SKIPPER, SHORE SUPPORT. 
Friday, October 15
     brian pain: skipper
     endra o’may: deck hand
     REQUIRE SHORE SUPPORT. 
Sunday, October 17
     brian pain: skipper
     REQUIRE DECKHAND, SHORE SUPPORT.

2. Maintenance (early November)        Nancy to be pulled out and work done in the Evaporator Shed. 
        Proposal to subcontract some work.  An initial estimate for painting hull is approx $2000.

3.  Commercial use of Nancy.     The following initial proposal has been received from Mark Adams.

Here is a brief outline of possible regular commercial use of Nancy. 
I would take her on three days per week  on a permanent basis in order to create an income for myself, a regular income the LBT and have Nancy being ‘out on the river’ where she belongs 🙂
Most likely We’d/Thurs/fri, as I want to be my kids on the weekend. 
I would take on all advertising for the venture. 
I would suggest payment to the LBT would occur via a percentage of income rather than a set weekly fee. 
I would, of course, still make myself available to skipper Nancy for other LBT events/passengers on other days as a volunteer. 
Note: I  have recently gained my Coxswains 1 ticket. The minimum ticket needed to take paying passengers on a boat in survey under 12mtrs. 

I have spoken to some re the ethos and concerns around this idea and I’m only keen to get it up and running with a consensus blessing. 
 

• Nancy’s role in Seniors Week (starting Monday 11th);
• getting Nancy out of the water for major maintenance at the beginning of November;
• how to get that work done (volunteers, subcontracting);
• how to operate Nancy in the coming summer season (volunteers, leasing).

Get along, hear about the different proposals, and have your say.

• Monday, October 11 Brian Pain: skipper;
• Tuesday, October 12 Tuesday Group: shore support;
• Wednesday, October 13 Brian Pain: skipper;
• Thursday, October 14 Steve Wilson: deck hand; 
• Friday, October 15 Brian Pain: skipper;
• Sunday, October 17 Brian Pain: skipper, Steve Wilson: deck hand.  

At the Shed, 6th September 5pm

Present: BrianPain, Martin Riddle, Andy Ritchie, Paul Frost, Glynn Shevels, BrianMarriott

Minutes: Richard Forster

1. What work isrequired?

   1. Dynilsheathing.

      1. Small areas.

      2. Should beable to glue in patches easily.

   2. Painting abovethe waterline to the gunwhales.

      1. Paint islifting. May have been a primer issue.

      2. Considerpaint types.

      3. May need topay somebody to do the job. Could spend some of the money donatedby Judy Krynen.

         1. Mark Adamshas experience and might be a good person to do the job

         2. Also WoodenBoat Centre.

      4. Use thetrailer in the first instance.

         1. Considerusing the Evaporator Sheds. Approach owners.

         2. Do a dry runat the ramp just with the trailer, preferably at low tide to seewhat is going on. Thursday meet at Shed at 2.30pm.

   3. Tensioner fordrive belt.

      1. Need adesign.

         1. Tensionwheel

         2. Pivot themotor – some sort of pivot on the mounting plate.

         3. Get JohnDriesen to look at it.

         4. AndrewPerkins.

      2. Do we needtoothed belts?

      3. Notimmediately required.

   4. Paint thedecks alongside the cabin.

      1. Can’t do aproper job until the decks are dry.

      2. Would be goodto do whilst boat is in shed.

   5. Steering gearshould have stops to prevent the rudder turning to far.

      1. Might be ajob for the engineer to look at.

      2. Dealing withthe bilge. Advice is to leave it unpainted.

2. When do we getNancy out of the water?

   1. November 8^th1.15pm is a good time

3. Bilges.

   1. Have beenblasted and vacuumed.

   2. Wash withfresh water – not salt.

   3. Planksprobably oil soaked.

   4. Just keepcleaning them.

   5. Live with baretimbers.

4. Cabin

   1. Has rot in atleast 2 window frames.

   2. Needappropriate wood. Tuesday group, and Dennis can tackle.

5. Decking.

   1. Lifting on theport side at the front. Would be easiest to do in the shed.

6. Front windowleaks

   1. Is ok when thecover is on.

   2. If it pivoted,sideways or out, could be sealed.

   3. Paint cabinsides at the same time.

7. Blinds havebeen fixed, paid for by Judy Krynen.

8. Seniors week.

   1. Need crews –will advertise.

   2. Involve MarkAdams, Steve Wilson.

9. Log in thecanal needs moving.

   1. Do it tomorrow(Tuesday).

Meeting closed18.06PM

STORING BATTERIES. 

Generally speaking Lithium batteries like to be used regularly. Regular charge and discharge cycles keep the batteries active and healthy. Prolonged (weeks) charging at 100% State of Charge (SOC) is not recommended. 

Care needs to be exercised when storing batteries in case equipment is accidentally left switched on, or in case the charger malfunctions or is inadvertently unplugged. Also the electronic Battery Control Unit (BCU) will over time gradually draw down the battery SOC. So if the batteries are left idle for a period the SOC may reduce until eventually the battery runs flat through self discharge. 

While the BCU has internal software and hardware protections against over-discharge, it is recommended to avoid this situation if at all possible. 

When storing batteries more than two weeks between use:

1) Switch on the BCU and charger and fully charge the battery. 

A 12V EV PowerPak should get past 14.0V to be considered fully charged. 

2) Switch off all loads and chargers, including solar chargers. If there is a main isolator then switch that off. 

3) Switch off the BCU by pressing the button on the front. There will be a click as the internal relay disengages. 

4) Mark on your calendar to repeat the process in three months.

5) Goto Step 1. 

If storing batteries for periods longer than 3 months, in addition to the previous instructions, disconnect the positive (red) terminal on each battery. This will disconnect power to the BCU and will allow batteries to be safely stored for 12 months or longer. 

MAINTAINING BATTERIES. 

EV PowerPak Lithium batteries are sealed and maintenance free. All they require is occasional charging to 100% full (14.2V) and regular use.

The following points should be condsidered for good lifespan:

1) Check that each cell has a green LED indicator showing. There are four on each pack and these are visible through the cover.

2) Check terminal bolts for tightness and corrosion. If there is corrosion use a wire brush to clean and some battery terminal spray to protect.

3) Check that there is not excessive dust moisture on the battery tops. This can be removed using a clean rag.

4) Check battery and BMS cables are not jammed between batteries or have insulation damage. 5) Check that the black BMS plug on top of each battery is correctly seated. If you look after your EV PowerPak batteries they will last you for many years! 

 Pic: Mr Sparks at work. 

Meeting to discuss Nancy battery issues 18/2/21

Notes: RichardForster

Present: TomStevens, Brian Marriott, Paul Frost, Brian Pain

• Background

  • At the OpenDay Nancy suddenly and unexpectedly lost power after less than anhour’s operation. After half an hour recharge she was able to goout, but after another half hour lost power again. Afterrecharging overnight she would appear to be back to ‘normal’.This unexpected loss of power also happened a year ago on the wayback from Kermandie.

  • Charger isadapted to lithium ion.

  • Batteries soldto us by a reputable dealer. Are six years old.

• The problem

  • When thebattery is kept on continuous charge, it isn’t charged when itsaid it is.

  • Battery runsout well before it is expected to.

  • This problemhas occurred on multiple occasions.

  • There is nosure way of knowing how much charge is in the batteries unless theyare fully charged or discharged. The voltage doesn’t tell you.Not knowing is a big issue.

  • Can batteriesbe bench tested?

  • If batteriesare taken through a deep discharge then brought up they ‘comeup’, shown by practical application.

  • Controllerworks at individual cell level.

  • Is the problemwith the controller?

    • Brian hasbeen checking this against measuring individual cells.

    • It isdifficult to test with a different controller.

    • Check for areset on the charger (Brian M)
      

    • Tom to send alink to Controller Discussion Groups to Brian M (Tom S)
      

  • Charger.

    • What sort?

    • Charger,controller and batteries bought as a unit.

    • It is inswitch mode, but not absolutely certain.

  • Get moreinformation. 

    • Talk toBattery World Brian P). 

    • Talk tocontacts and distributor, Rod Dilkes (Brian M).
      

    • Isthe battery prematurely aged? CraigSalmon at French car care Kingston is a go to person for electriccar owners. 0407126164.
      

    • Off grid installers may have information.

  • Batteries areprotected from overuse by controller.

  • Stop gapmeasures.

    • Need to keepbatteries off full charge. Only charge up when going out. Infuture:

      • Skipper doesNOT normally put boat on charge (don’t plug in). If batteryvery low put it on a couple of hours timer charge (Brian M toarrange timer).
        

      • Boat MUST bebooked out at least 24 hours before.

      • Plugged inthe night before.

      • Need to aroster of ‘chargers’ who are informed when the boat is goingout so that it can be charged. This needs to be incorporatedinto scheduling system (Richard).
        

      • Generators.

        • Can makemodifications so that we are able to charge off a small motor, which has been a problem in the past (Brian).
          

        • Speak toRod Dilkes (Brian).

      • Check theanchor (Brian P).

      • Need asafety boat capable of towing Nancy on standby (with driver). Rowan is ok, Tom is backup.

      • April10th-11th Maritime trail Endra’s Nord is available as safetyboat.

      • Share theNancy calendar with critical people (Richard).

      • Need toschedule a few test runs (tow Rowan).

        • NextTuesday (11am) Brian, Brian, Tom, Paul.

        • Trip to theslip – organise. (Richard). 

 Pic Happier days – Christmas 2015

Monday, October 12
 barbara sharp: shore support
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand. 

Tuesday, October 13
 andrew ritchie: shore support
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand. 

Wednesday, October 14
 martin riddle: skipper
 DECK HAND NEEDED
 tess hallinan: shore support. 

Thursday, October 15
 andrew ritchie: shore support
 celia leverton: deck hand
 martin riddle: skipper. 

Friday, October 16
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand
SHORE SUPPORT NEEDED. 

Saturday, October 17
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand
SHORE SUPPORT NEEDED. 

Sunday, October 18
 martin riddle: skipper
 nell tyson: deck hand
 tess hallinan: shore support.

So far (Friday Oct 2) we have bookings for Monday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.  More bookings are coming in fast, and I think we can assume that the other days will fill up.  The calendar is shown  below, with the  ‘holes’ where we need people capitalised.  If you can fill a spot please complete the form at https://tinyurl.com/yxfsjkqp or contact the secretary – sec@lbt.org.au  or 04977 86572. 

Monday, October 12 
 brian pain: skipper 
 glynn shevels: deck hand 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 
 
Tuesday, October 13 
 brian pain: skipper 
 glynn shevels: deck hand 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT.

Wednesday, October 14 
 tess hallinan: shore support 
 NEED SKIPPER 
 NEED CREW.  
 
 Thursday, October 15 
 NEED SKIPPER 
 NEED CREW 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 

Friday, October 16 
 brian pain: skipper 
 glynn shevels: deck hand 
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 

Saturday, October 17
 brian pain: skipper
 glynn shevels: deck hand
 NEED SHORE SUPPORT. 

Sunday, October 18
 brian pain: skipper
 NEED CREW
 tess hallinan: shore support. 

• Monday 12th October 1:00pm–2:30;
• Tuesday 13th October 1:00pm–2:30pm;
• Wednesday 14th October 1:00pm–2:30pm;
• Thursday 15th October 1:00pm–2:30pm;
• Friday 16th October 1:00pm–2:30pm;
• Saturday 17th October 1:00pm–2:30pm;
• Sunday 18th October 1:00pm–2:30pm. 

A number of people have volunteered to help out as deck hands and in the Shed (organising), but the more we have the more we can spread the load.  If you can help out complete the form at https://tinyurl.com/yxfsjkqp or email the secretary: sec@lbt.org.au